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[cuddlefish]

So I'm almost finished playing Summon Night 4, but I have to beat the last boss and it's TOO HARD WAHHHH. And I'm frustrated, so here we have complaints various and sundry.

-The main character is 15 and he or she runs an inn? And he or she seems to think it's perfectly reasonable that Lisher and Lucian barge in to be fed every morning, while the Bronx father is an asshole. Hahaha. No. Also, there's nothing wrong with calling people you're not related to oniichan and oneechan if you really like them, but if you're young enough to be calling them that, you're young enough to get them to support you. ._. Maybe not Glad, he probably doesn't have a house of his own, but what about Mint?

-Disappointingly enough, when the main character does start acting 15, it's the most annoying thing in the world.

-At least I agreed with most of what they said in Summon Night 3. At least the heartfelt speeches weren't so crushingly tiresome and unoriginal. Sometimes I feel like I'm on the side with the people who say all the most awful things. Several conversations made me feel helpless frustration that Gian was not telling his side of the story as well as he could, and the stupid main character was WINNING THE ARGUMENTS.

-They don't even explain why revenge is bad, the main character just knows automatically? A whole extra chapter for Sector and I don't even feel that much for him? That should tell you something. This might be the biggest fault in the storyline.

-I DON'T NEED TO HEAR FROM GECK AND RENDLER ANYMORE, FOR GOD'S SAKE GO AWAY SO I CAN KILL THE LAST BOSS.

-Admittedly villains shouldn't be killing people, but they also shouldn't have to fling themselves at people who openly hate them just because they are likely to be the targets of prejudice. It is not the victim's fault if he or she was abused for a decade or so and don't feel very nice about it.

-Last boss takes forever to die and there are tons and tons of spell animations that you can't skip there. It's so decent of them to let us all skip the normal summon animations---how could they fall down on this, of all things?!

-Japanese reviews overall complain of a "kiddy" feel to this game. Yes, I'd agree with that.


Good things:

Every single character is a shining golden god. Except for Granbald. I know I love bunnies, but putting bunny ears on something that annoying has only sullied the bunny ears. Stupid stupid stupid. This is how I feel about Summon Night characters: I want to watch them and love them all, unknown. I want to melt away into the world and be the bright leaves, ground, air, water, food, clothing. I want to be be Lindbaum, hug every single one of these characters with my very existence. Except for Granbald.

Also, Koyasu Takehito can be heard singing horribly in this game. LAFFS GALORE.

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Comments

[narugami.livejournal.com]

I had trouble with SN3 already, so I got scared off of SN4 ^^;;;; Really I should buy some game guides one of these days instead of relying on the Net...

Aww, Ripre didn't come off as that strict to me. She does relent - after saying "WHERE. IS. YOUR. SORRY?" and getting an apology, that is. But I don't think she's even that harsh to anyone except Gazel (and he deserves it for being a punk) Certainly the kids in Banossa's area of the city can't have been better off.

I actually had this irrational ReidxRipre dad&mom fantasy for a while there. I know he's way too old for her ^^;

It's good to know Ruvaid and Ioth are doing well (and are still married OTL). ^^ (when you play SN2, make sure you follow a FAQ for their events!)

I knew Akane would be awesome! Does she still bump into the MC while running errands though And Ripre making ramen = <33333

Alba teaching others sword skills is so wonderful. Alba, you did it! Good for you!!

MIMOZA IS GETTING MARRIED????? Kyaaaa! And adopting Lami, too, oh Lami was so DANG CUTE in SN1. Awwww. Awwwww. I can even see her being a good summoner too! I want to see an illust of the wedding, you'd have the casts of both SN1&2 crashing the party. And Gibson eating half the cake, which is delivered of course by Paffel... *happy sigh*

And Cunnon, Pomnitt and Paffel should have a maid convention. Masters these days. Seriously :/

Then use a pic of one of the group shots, maybe? Though the cropping is difficult...

PS Were you also entertained by the random geometry in SN1? Obtuse, Acute, Flat, Lambda, etc XDDD

[moumusu.livejournal.com]

My problem with SN3 was emotional involvement, which I didn't have as much of this time around. :D Er, well, I wasn't as sad for Aty and scared I would get the karma ED. Shaomei gives out karma/brave clear fortunes for free and as long as she doesn't say, "Oh crap..." then everything's good :3

I didn't rely on SN4 wiki that often, but their advice for the last boss is what saved me. The problem is that their suggestions on how to use each character are kind of disorganized and incomplete. There's too many high-level contributors who try to make their characters ultimate and powerful, and they don't really discuss the basics. (Or they scorn the basics.)

You're right when you say that the other kids probably didn't have very nice lives in the northern part of town. And, LMAO ARE YOU KIDDING ME? Me too! Reid was the oldest, he would be just fine as a surrogate daddy D: It is TOTALLY rational.

I have a walkthrough guide book for SN2, too ^^;;; I really...enjoy the feeling of being able to hold a book and examine things in it when I play.

Akane is a mix of awesome and hysterical fail, translating to more awesome. The protagonist meets her because her master whose name I forget kicked her out for some terrible failure, and now she has to sell off a ton of really expensive medicine or she can't go home. So in order to recruit her, you have to pay in excess of 40000b to buy her medicine over 4 events, and then when you finally finish, she decides the main character is rich yet evil and stupid enough to drop ridiculous amounts of money on useless medicine...and tries to rob the inn u_u Alba says, I know her, but I don't want to tell her she knows me because it would be too much of a pain in the butt.

You get to keep Riple's recipe later---it's called "Ramen of Love."

Alba is also seen being extremely patient with Granbard and unprejudiced towards summon monsters. He's so good. :< He shows up at the same time as Ruvaid and Ioth because they were all traveling together and he got separated. (I am now trying not to make a crude joke about Ruvaid and Ioth taking a minor along for their honeymoon (´Д‘)

Yes, Lami is a great summoner, and Mimoza's adopting her as an heir. Oh, and Mint is a member of the Blue Faction, so she says her sempai is getting married soon and she wants to go. :3 I think Reid gets to be a knight again, Edos is soon to be a father, and Gazel is Gazel, so most everyone has grown up and left the Flat ;_; Fizz is kind of upset in the SN4 events because all these people she likes have left, so I imagined her becoming a vigilante and stealing or defending poor people. (Her final classes are Future Robin Hood, Dependable Master Thief, and Punishing Swordfighter :3)

I feel like you told me that Gibson loves cake and I forgot. This is a terrible oversight on my part :<

I'm guessing Pomnitt has the worst maid situation. I think she was hired partly out of charity due to spoilers. She can be seen crying to get Lisher and Lucian to come home and behave themselves on more than one occasion ^^;

P.S. Flat was the only geometry word you listed I didn't recognize >:D I thought maybe by flat they meant an apartment kind of flat.

I'm quite incoherent, sorry

[narugami.livejournal.com]

Ah, I had that problem with TotA more XD; You're making me want guidebooks too!

Akane's shishou, yay!! (IIRC his name is Shion??) Yeah, she really hasn't changed then, except to become more Akane-like (awesome and ridiculous at the same time.) Although I wouldn't have pegged her as robbing somebody. You fought for justice, Akane! What are you doing???

Ramen of Love? ....:D Awwww! (HayatoxRipre ED??????)

Well Alba would be (unprejudiced, that is) since by the end of the game there's quite a lot of summons hanging out at his house. Including the MC. XD

Edos would be a good dad... just please wear a shirt

Poor Fiz though, all her siblings are leaving :/ That is kind of sad, but then, they're growing up. Fiz as a bandit queen would actually work pretty well, probably. Now that you mention it. She's grown up to be a punk OTL

I did mention Gibson's love for cake because it really stuck with me. Who's that pirate guy with the feathers in SN3? He has a conversation about desserts with Aty so who knows, they might get along well :)

Wellll just flat as in something is flat/2D/I dunno. Flat as in a flat works too. Personally I thought at first that Banossa's group was named 'Optus' - then it clicked and I kinda facepalmed.