TURNOFF: Guys who say they hate "those yaoi fangirls". Yeah. BIG turnoff. Note that I didn't say "guys who say they hate yaoi." I'm not saying you have to embrace the buttsex or something. I'm saying you should tell her, hey, I don't want to see any yaoi, and if she's smart and decent (AND PLENTY OF US ARE), she'll say okay, and not show you yaoi. Not too often, anyway. But saying you don't like yaoi fangirls is weak. I don't think I'm being some kind of ballbuster here. You can do better.

I meant to sleep through the night tonight, but I kind of realized that I'm having trouble ever sleeping more than 3-5 hours at a time. X_X

Today, if I am awake long enough, I will see if I can obtain a 6 inch cake pan and matcha.

EDIT: I'm adding corgis to my interests list. LET THE GOOD TIMES ROLL.

EDIT: And ROLL they did!

EDIT: [livejournal.com profile] boogietiere has brought to my attention an important exception to the fangirl-hating thing: fangirl Japanese. You are free to ignore people who put "neh" on the ends of their sentences.

From: [identity profile] moumusu.livejournal.com


You're an exception because you like the yaoi. AND! You bring to mind another exception: FANGIRL JAPANESE. That's a REALLY important one.

From: [identity profile] boogietiere.livejournal.com


i just ask this out of curiosity since you seem to hang out on a lot of fan based communities, how large would you estimate that wapanese-speaking group's size proportionally to uhm more intelligible fans? I hope they're just overrepresented and not as omnipresent as they seem, it's scary.

From: [identity profile] moumusu.livejournal.com


...I would hazard a guess of 25%, but I really can't say. I tend to mentally filter Fangirl when I see it on my flist, which is to say, I'm half blind to it. Also, some of them don't type the way they talk, so I can't really confirm that. I have met people at cons (rather than meeting them online for the first time), and lots and LOTS of girls seemed to be talking Fangirl there. But cons are unusual circumstances---they might have been doing it to show off for a special occasion, or they might have just been affected by the weekend-long marathon of Japanese stuff coming their way. And then there are the degrees: do they just let a "wai" slip once in a while, or is it "-chan" and "ne" and cat references in every sentence? Something in between?

I think the proportion isn't really something that spreads across everybody who's into anime. It varies from group to group, fandom to fandom. Everybody seems to agree that fangirls are social, so I think they take their cues from others and act as a group. If they're in a community or group of people that doesn't mind Fangirl (or tends to speak it already) then a LOT of them will speak Fangirl. So if you're with certain people, it will be omnipresent.

From: [identity profile] boogietiere.livejournal.com

ohhh i'm talkative today it seems


I feel sorry for making you type something longer than an average entry (i too tend to do that from time to time) , but i kind of neglected the difficulties on evaluating the actual proportion of the group defined. I agree that it may depend on the group/fandom but that also means some persons have started typing like that within that community. And there are those people that write fangirl in their own journal, so i think individuality has a say in this too, not just the brainwashing that takes place by others.

A confession: when i FIRST discovered anime and it was still a mainly secluded online thing in my country and bittorrent was non-existent, i made myself guilty of typing japanese expressions in my conversations such as ja mata ne, or arara *_* THAT sorta stuff that noone i knew did back when i was 14, nothing really annoying though. I didn't even have a real fandom back then, it was just out of love for the language and probably made me look weird too. Anyway i quit that habit partially when i noticed signs of the anime/japan craze around me growing (like people pasting j-rock quotes on their sites and all) which made me feel embarrassed about what i had been doing so far even though i knew the language better than them.

This is a more empiric reason why i feel that, when people online, under whatever fandom it may be, make ridiculous use of japanese, they're too ignorant towards their own silliness and thus they should be defined as FANGIRL JAPANESE to simplify things. In that case 25% or higher could be a very realistic number indeed ^_^;


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